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	<title>Comments on: A Quest for Discipline</title>
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	<description>It&#039;s all about delivering</description>
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		<title>By: Steven Hong</title>
		<link>http://blog.coryfoy.com/2009/01/a-quest-for-discipline/comment-page-1/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Hong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 14:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Cory,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don&#039;t see your email listed anywhere, so I thought I&#039;d leave a message here. I noticed that you recently reviewed an iPhone programming book for Slashdot. I wanted to see if you&#039;d be interested in reviewing iPhone in Action from Manning Publications. You can find more details about it at www.manning.com/callen. If interested, please shoot me an email at stho at manning dot com. Thanks!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Steven Hong&lt;br /&gt;Marketing Coordinator&lt;br /&gt;Manning Publications&lt;br /&gt;www.manning.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Cory,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see your email listed anywhere, so I thought I&#8217;d leave a message here. I noticed that you recently reviewed an iPhone programming book for Slashdot. I wanted to see if you&#8217;d be interested in reviewing iPhone in Action from Manning Publications. You can find more details about it at <a href="http://www.manning.com/callen" rel="nofollow">http://www.manning.com/callen</a>. If interested, please shoot me an email at stho at manning dot com. Thanks!</p>
<p>Steven Hong<br />Marketing Coordinator<br />Manning Publications<br /><a href="http://www.manning.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.manning.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cory Foy</title>
		<link>http://blog.coryfoy.com/2009/01/a-quest-for-discipline/comment-page-1/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>Cory Foy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ted!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&#039;s a deeper issue. We as an industry have gone a long time without viewing the software development profession as a craft, with developers as true professionals. Instead, we hire Junior developers (calling them senior), hand them shiny IDEs and vague requirements, and then complain bitterly that software is crap.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Much of this spawns from Uncle Bob&#039;s talk about &quot;Craftsmanship over Crap&quot; at Agile 2008, but is really just a recognition that if we want to improve how software is built, we have to improve the people building the software.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hope all is well - email me sometime at foyc at cornet design dot com. Heard you all have a new addition coming soon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ted!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a deeper issue. We as an industry have gone a long time without viewing the software development profession as a craft, with developers as true professionals. Instead, we hire Junior developers (calling them senior), hand them shiny IDEs and vague requirements, and then complain bitterly that software is crap.</p>
<p>Much of this spawns from Uncle Bob&#8217;s talk about &#8220;Craftsmanship over Crap&#8221; at Agile 2008, but is really just a recognition that if we want to improve how software is built, we have to improve the people building the software.</p>
<p>Hope all is well &#8211; email me sometime at foyc at cornet design dot com. Heard you all have a new addition coming soon!</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
		<link>http://blog.coryfoy.com/2009/01/a-quest-for-discipline/comment-page-1/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cory: Interesting article.  You mention at the end that we need to turn the software industry around.  In what way do you mean?  Do you mean the current economic / employment crisis, or are you referring to some deeper ill?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cory: Interesting article.  You mention at the end that we need to turn the software industry around.  In what way do you mean?  Do you mean the current economic / employment crisis, or are you referring to some deeper ill?</p>
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		<title>By: Corey Haines</title>
		<link>http://blog.coryfoy.com/2009/01/a-quest-for-discipline/comment-page-1/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>Corey Haines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great thoughts, Cory. I&#039;m really looking forward to coming down to Florida and having some time to talk in person with you. Face-to-face communication has a much more appropriate bandwidth for this kind of discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great thoughts, Cory. I&#8217;m really looking forward to coming down to Florida and having some time to talk in person with you. Face-to-face communication has a much more appropriate bandwidth for this kind of discussion.</p>
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